Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast is the conversation for you, our tribe of future-focused business leaders.
Hosts Dev Patnaik and Michelle Loret de Mola explore the most pressing issues in business strategy, culture, and leadership, with insights that help even the most seasoned strategists reframe how to lead and how to plan for What's Next.
From interviews with thought leaders to Headlines from the Future, The Jump Podcast aims to widen your perspective to plan for change before the ground shifts beneath your feet.
Episodes

Friday Oct 18, 2024
Friday Oct 18, 2024
In this episode, Michelle Loret de Mola and Dev Patnaik break down the latest from Tesla’s We, Robot event and what it reveals about innovation in today’s world. From robo-taxis to humanoid robots that could babysit your kids, they discuss why so many are skeptical of Elon Musk's grand visions. The conversation centers around a key question: Can innovation succeed without trust? Turns out, whether you’re in tech or not, trust is the foundation for turning bold ideas into accepted realities... you can’t just put a wig on Optimus.
#Innovation #Tesla #RoboTaxis #Trust #AutonomousVehicles #FutureTech
Chapters
1:45 Reactions to Tesla's WeRobot Event
5:43 Trust in Innovation
17:14 Understanding Market Acceptance
31:25 Headlines from the Future
Headlines from the Future
New California law requires fashion industry to take old clothes back for free. https://www.dailynews.com/2024/09/30/is-your-closet-full-of-old-clothes-a-new-california-law-will-require-the-fashion-industry-to-take-them-back-for-free/
SocialAI offers a Twitter-like diary where AI bots respond to your posts. https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/socialai-offers-a-twitter-like-diary-where-ai-bots-respond-to-your-posts/
'World-first' indoor vertical farm to produce 4M pounds of berries a year. https://newatlas.com/manufacturing/world-first-vertical-strawberry-farm-plenty/
Links
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The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Friday Oct 04, 2024
Friday Oct 04, 2024
In today’s business landscape, sustainability often gets framed as a sacrifice, but Ryan Baum is here to flip that script. In this episode, Michelle and Dev sit down with Ryan, a partner at Jump Associates, to explore how companies can make a good sustainability strategy work for their bottom line. From hitting big environmental targets to boosting market share, Ryan shows how the right mindset can turn green initiatives into business wins. The trio breaks down real-world examples and discusses how businesses can thrive while doing good for the planet.
#sustainability #strategy #mindsetshift #impact #leadership
Chapters
2:51 Mindset Shift in Sustainability
9:09 Successful Sustainability Initiatives
17:52 Debunking Internal Myths
30:35 Headlines from the Future
Headlines from the Future
Expanding Hispanic Community Propels U.S. Population Growth https://www.wsj.com/us-news/the-u-s-hispanic-population-is-still-expanding-partly-driven-by-migration-bbb6d417#
AI brings soaring emissions for Google and Microsoft, a major contributor to climate change. https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/g-s1-9545/ai-brings-soaring-emissions-for-google-and-microsoft-a-major-contributor-to-climate-change#:~:text=Google%20and%20Microsoft%20report%20growing,double%2Ddown%20on%20AI%20%3A%20NPR&text=Race-,Google%20and%20Microsoft%20report%20growing%20emissions%20as%20they%20double%2Ddown,to%20all%20of%20their%20products.
Approval of Newest Alzheimer’s Drug Will Accelerate New Era of Treatment. https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/approval-of-newest-alzheimers-drug-will-accelerate-new-era-of-treatment-645bfa25
Links
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Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Friday Sep 20, 2024
Friday Sep 20, 2024
“Jump Offsite, this is Dev Patnaik with Michelle Loret de Mola, can you hear me...?" In this special episode of the Jump Podcast, recorded live from the Carneros Resort in Napa Valley, California, Dev and Michelle bring the energy from our three unforgettable days together. If you made it out to Napa, consider this a little keepsake from our time together, and if you couldn’t make it, this is a little taste of what you missed! Dev and Michelle share how senior leaders need to get hands-on with AI—and no, you can’t outsource this! They discuss how inclusivity is now a non-negotiable part of business and culture, and explore the idea of leaders as “editors-in-chief,” curating their teams' time and focus. There's a palpable sense of urgency to tackle climate and societal challenges head-on, and a call to step outside—literally and metaphorically—to bring fresh ideas back to the table. Join us next year on our journey to spark action, craft the future we want, and get “out there with the animals”…
#futurefocus #leadership #consciouscapitalism #jumpoffsite #caseforchange #inclusivity
Chapters
1:30 Jump Offsite Takeaways
17:44 Jump Offsite Theme Song!
22:30 Headlines from the Future
Headlines from the Future
Google's AI Will Help Decide Whether Unemployed Workers Get Benefits https://gizmodo.com/googles-ai-will-help-decide-whether-unemployed-workers-get-benefits-2000496215
Missouri and the Midwest are gearing up for water fights fueled by climate change https://www.stlpr.org/health-science-environment/2024-08-30/missouri-midwest-gearing-up-water-fights-climate-change
Common food dye found to make skin and muscle temporarily transparent https://www.theguardian.com/science/article/2024/sep/05/common-food-dye-found-to-make-skin-and-muscle-temporarily-transparent
Links
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Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Wednesday Sep 04, 2024
Wednesday Sep 04, 2024
As our society pushes for sustainable development, the ancient strategies of the natural world offer a fresh perspective on modern innovation. In this episode, Michelle and Dev dive into the world of biomimicry with Janine Benyus, cofounder of the Biomimicry Institute. The conversation explores how nature’s 3.8 billion years of evolution offer a treasure trove of innovative solutions for modern challenges in sustainability, design, and even social innovation. Janine shares fascinating examples, from using plant chemistry to extend the shelf life of fruits and vegetables to using bone-inspired algorithms to design lighter and more efficient structures. The discussion also touches on the profound shift needed in corporate and societal mindsets, drawing lessons from nature’s inherent mutualism and enduring partnerships to foster collaboration over competition.
Janine will be joining us at The Jump Offsite in September. Invitations are now closed, but we hope to see you next year!
#biomimicry #sustainability #innovation #sustainablefuture #circulareconomy
Chapters
3:08 The Sustainable World Outside Our Doors
9:00 Biomimetic Solutions: Changing Materials and Chemistries
20:32 Mutualism in Nature and Social Innovation
28:20 Applying Mutualisms in the Corporate World
36:55 Headlines from the Future
Headlines from the Future
US colleges are cutting majors and slashing programs after years of putting it off. https://apnews.com/article/college-degree-programs-cuts-music-f0c271f6d61a13404f93688fcc6c589b
The US Department of Transportation has laid out a nationwide road safety plan that will lead to cars communicating with each other. https://www.engadget.com/transportation/the-us-lays-out-a-road-safety-plan-that-will-see-cars-talk-to-each-other-170043265.html
Researchers are testing the use of mRNA to get damaged livers to repair themselves, in a move that could one day lessen the need for organ transplants. https://www.wired.com/story/mrna-organ-rejuvenation-pittsburgh-upmc-center-transcriptional-medicine/
Links
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Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Thursday Aug 08, 2024
Thursday Aug 08, 2024
As AI continues to shape the future of industries around the globe, understanding its practical applications is essential. In this episode, Michelle and Dev welcome Ian Beacraft, renowned futurist and CEO of Signal and Cypher, to discuss the transformative power of AI in modern workflows. Ian shares how companies can strategically adopt AI to enhance efficiency and drive innovation. The conversation explores the psychological challenges leaders face when adopting new technologies and the necessity of a balanced approach between optimism and pragmatism. When it comes to implementing AI, don’t just “let the dogs run through the field”.
Ian Beacraft will be joining us at The Jump Offsite in September. To request an invite, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/offsite/
#AI #workflows #techtrends #futureofbusiness #artificialintelligence #businessstrategy
Chapters
5:50 The Approach to Implementing AI
22:18 Managing the Emotions and Psychology of AI Adoption
28:58 Rethinking Collaboration and Interaction
35:45 Headlines from the Future
Headlines from the Future
Used electric cars are not just cheap—they are cheaper than similar gas cars. https://www.nrdc.org/stories/electric-vs-gas-cars-it-cheaper-drive-ev
Americans aren’t just waiting longer to have kids and having fewer once they start—they’re less likely to have any at all. https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/relationships/americans-babies-childless-birthrate-daf438f9
Engineers have invented a new way to remove health-harming 'forever chemicals' from water—using 3D printing. https://phys.org/news/2024-08-health-threat-chemicals-3d-ceramic.html
Links
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Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Thursday Jul 25, 2024
Thursday Jul 25, 2024
Friction is a natural part of any organization, but it’s not necessarily a beneficial one. As organizations grow to tackle more complexity, it is important for leaders to identify and minimize unnecessary friction while fostering an environment where productive friction can thrive. In this episode, Michelle and Dev welcome Stanford professor Bob Sutton to explore his latest work, "The Friction Project." Together, they discuss how leaders can effectively manage organizational friction by distinguishing between the friction that hinders progress and the friction that stimulates creativity and innovation. Bob shares fascinating anecdotes and lessons from top companies and his extensive research, providing practical advice on reducing bureaucratic hurdles and promoting a culture of creativity.
Bob Sutton will be joining us at The Jump Offsite in September. To request an invite, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/offsite/
#leadership #FrictionProject #organizationalbehavior #innovation #businessgrowth
Chapters
03:44 Efficiency and Creativity in Organizations
14:56 Flexibility in Leadership Styles
19:57 The Value of Creative Friction
33:40 Headlines of the Future
Headlines from the Future
Extreme heat swells NYC bridge, exposing infrastructure weaknesses. https://www.fastcompany.com/91154590/extreme-heat-broke-a-new-york-city-bridge-expect-more-infrastructure-mishaps-like-this
Wealth preservation reaches new heights with cryonic revival trusts. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-09/rich-people-freeze-themselves-and-fortunes-for-future-revival
Carbon capture ‘butter' revolutionizes dairy alternatives. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/new-updates/bill-gates-backed-startup-creates-butter-from-thin-air-and-heres-how-it-is-an-eco-friendly-option/articleshow/111842426.cms?from=mdr#
Links
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Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Friday Jul 12, 2024
Friday Jul 12, 2024
Since ChatGPT's release in November 2022, AI has revolutionized the world, driving unprecedented innovation across industries and transforming how businesses operate. Companies are leveraging AI for everything from creating synthetic audiences for real-time insights to assisting engineers with coding and predicting customer behavior for better retention. Even traditionally cautious sectors like finance are diving in, with giants like Goldman Sachs leading the charge. This isn’t just a tech trend, it’s a fundamental shift in how businesses approach growth and innovation. Embrace the future—AI is here to stay!
For more on artificial intelligence, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/what-every-company-can-learn-from-apples-ai-strategy/
#AI #techrevolution #generativeAI #businessgrowth #innovation
Chapters
02:06 Different Approaches to AI Adoption
08:17 Apple's AI Strategy
17:49 Leveraging Strengths and Solving Challenges
30:58 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
Google sets up AI to predict floods and send cash before disaster hits. https://www.fastcompany.com/91144047/google-using-ai-to-predict-floods-and-send-families-cash-before-disaster-hits
Early puberty surge in girls tied to mental health risks. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/early-puberty-mental-physical-health#:~:text=Research%20has%20found%20that%20girls,pronounced%20ways%2C”%20says%20Chaku.
Marine fungus breaks down floating plastic pollution. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2435037-marine-fungus-can-break-down-floating-plastic-pollution/
Links
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Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Thursday Jun 27, 2024
Thursday Jun 27, 2024
Across industries, execs are racing to drive consumer demand. Some are looking to spur enough product innovation to meet their ambitious growth goals. Others are building new loyalty programs that will keep consumers coming back for more. B2B companies are focusing on new sales incentive programs to increase their numbers. But igniting outsize growth isn’t simply about drumming up mass demand. And as the first wave of results come in from these growth initiatives, some leaders are beginning to notice an underlying flaw in their assumptions. And that flaw has massive implications for how large companies think about growth. An age of microtribes may require companies to fundamentally rethink their approach to innovation… “The flood gates are out there.”
For more on microtribes, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/why-microtribes-are-wrecking-company-growth-plans/
#microtribes #growth #nichemarkets #futureofbusiness #consumerdemand
Chapters
1:23 Market Assumptions
6:04 The Rise of Microtribes
14:00 Organizing by Tribe
30:00 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
Korean scientists found a way to grow beef stem cells inside of rice without substantially increasing its cost. https://www.freethink.com/science/cultivated-beef-rice
Increased glacial melt due to global warming brings us closer to catastrophically slowing down the Gulf Stream. https://theconversation.com/atlantic-ocean-is-headed-for-a-tipping-point-once-melting-glaciers-shut-down-the-gulf-stream-we-would-see-extreme-climate-change-within-decades-study-shows-222834
Researchers are successfully growing animals in an artificial wombs called Biobags. https://www.freethink.com/futurology/artificial-wombs-ectogenesis
Links
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Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Friday Jun 07, 2024
Friday Jun 07, 2024
Jamie Dimon recently announced that he plans to step down from his role as CEO of JPMorgan within the next five years. In this episode, Michelle and Dev dive into Dimon's retirement plans, the implications for JPMorgan, and how future-focused leaders can prepare for their own succession. This conversation is packed with insights on leadership transitions, the challenges of succession planning in an era marked by boomerang CEOs, and what it means to prepare the next generation of leaders...a duck out of water? Not so bad.
For more insights on wisdom in leadership, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/why-leadership-is-in-crisis-when-we-need-it-the-most/
#successionplanning #jamiedimon #jpmorgan #boomerangCEOs #leadership #succession
Chapters
3:45 Why Succession Planning is Challenging
10:37 Developing Your Leaders
25:55 Rising Expectations for Moral Leadership
34:22 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
South Korean scientists found a way to use sound waves to help neurons form new, functional connections. https://www.freethink.com/health/ultrasound-brain-stimulation
The rise of generative AI could wash out thousands of languages that lack sufficient text with which to train AI models. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/04/generative-ai-low-resource-languages/678042/
Psychedelics are finally entering clinical trials to treat chronic pain, and not just mental health conditions. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/5/15/24156372/psychedelics-chronic-pain-cluster-headache-medicine-lsd-psilocybin
Links
Subscribe to receive weekly Dev’s future focused letters: https://www.jumpassociates.com/email-sign-up/
Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.

Friday May 24, 2024
Friday May 24, 2024
Starbucks became a gold standard in the beverage industry for not only selling creative drinks that people loved, but for creating a “third place” for people to connect. Recent earnings calls, though, reflect the company’s struggles with retaining customers amid inflation. In this episode, Dev and Michelle discuss how Starbucks—and companies across industries—can leverage their strengths to meet ambitious growth expectations in times of volatility and uncertainty.
For more insights on Loyalty, visit: https://www.jumpassociates.com/category/loyalty/
#futurefocused #starbucks #laxmannarasimhan #dunkin #timhortons #earningscalls
Chapters
2:00 The Role of the New CEO and Restoring Trust
10:25 Starbucks as a Third Place
20:42 Different Levels of Loyalty
37:23 Headlines of the Future
Headlines of the Future
The global cybersecurity worker shortage could reach 85 million workers by 2030. https://www.freethink.com/hard-tech/cybersecurity-shortage
Nearly every day for the last six weeks, California’s electric grid has run on 100% clean electricity for hours at a time. https://www.govtech.com/smart-cities/california-hits-new-record-for-renewable-energy-generation
A new AI platform can generate millions of gene-editing CRISPR proteins unlike any seen in nature. https://www.freethink.com/robots-ai/ai-designed-crispr
Links
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Connect with us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jump-associates
Start a conversation: inquiries@jumpassociates.com
The Jump Podcast
The Jump Podcast features Dev Patnaik in dialogue with Michelle Loret de Mola. This is the conversation for future-focused leaders thinking about strategy, culture and leadership. The world is crazy. Everything seems to be changing, and not always in a good way. Today, business leaders are struggling to figure out avoid becoming the next Kodak, Blackberry or Blockbuster. But fear not, dear listener. Things can get better. People can do better. And the world can be better.
Jump Associates
Jump is the world’s leading independent strategy and innovation firm. We work with the world’s most admired companies on their most important growth challenges. Using a future focused approach to strategy, we’ve helped these firms to grow their businesses in times of change.


